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Re: Why Slipknot Sucks

Nate — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:36:39 -0000

I love metal. Its my bread and butter, for sure. But one thing about metal that I find to be such a shame and so frustrating at the same time.... in no other genre of music do you find the fans of the GENRE (not specific bands) so often arguing over so many petty things having to do with what essentially comes down to opinions. If you dont like Slipknot, more power to you. But you can't say with authority, as fact, that Slipknot "sucks" or that they "arent talented", "arent good" or whatever variation of it people say. All that stuff comes down to personal definition. Whats good to one person is abhorrent to another, and neither is more right than the other. Guys, we as fans of "heavy music" (since what defines metal is so hotly contested..... and again, what should be simply a matter of opinion) dont need to be at each other's throats over petty, pointless, unwinnable arguments. We, as fans of heavy music, are totally hated by most other music genres and fans, especially hippies and many indie kids and ESPECIALLY pop fans (obviously not true across the board.... hopefully at least one person understands what im saying and how im saying it.... with a tiny bit of tongue in cheek). Can't we just stay united under one thing we SHOULD all have in common.... that we hate hippies, "bubblegum" pop, preppy frat boy douchebags, and sorority girl airhead superficial whores! Lets use this energy to take them down and own them on THEIR blogs and message boards! Remember.... its "music" to SOMEONE, and its enjoyed by SOMEONE. We are no more right than them, and vice versa. Enjoy what you enjoy, and try to live life NOT as a dickhead as much as you can.

END THE METAL CIVIL WAR!!!!!!

Re: Why Slipknot Sucks

DAG — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:29:35 -0000

I have never been a fan of Slipknot. I had always thought their music was just obnoxious screaming, no good lyrics or guitar playing, the masks they wear are ridiculous and gimmicky, and the fact they have 9 people on stage, with 4 of them being just a waste of space. However, I have to say that their most recent album is actually not that bad. It has some credible songs that show *some* maturity, talent, and diversity.

Anyway, I was dragged, somewhat reluctantly at first, to a recent concert of Slipknot. As the show got closer, I got a bit more interested to go, as I liked the band touring with them and I just wanted to see what it would be like to see this spectacle just once in my life. I have to say I was actually entertained. Again, there are like 4 or 5 real musicians up there with the rest just being a bunch of filler, or more like clown performers dancing around up there, but even those extra filler “musicians” on stage added some value in a strange way to the show and helped to amp things up a bit and get the audience more involved.

I agree with much of what you say, the music they have put out for most of their existence has been pretty much a barrage of noise with no relevance to anything or anyone. But, after giving them a chance and seeing their show, I can see some traces of talent mixed into the chaos, but yes, I will probably never buy any of their music or ever see them again, but it was worth going to see them once in my life and I actually felt more entertained than thought I would be at the end of the day.

Re: Why Slipknot Sucks

HAITHAR — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:29:49 -0000

maggors are retarded.
Slipknot sounds like shit.
Corey does look like he has down syndrome

oh and

Dimmu Borgir is hilarious.

Re: Why Slipknot Sucks

Jak — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 04:18:05 -0000

Haha
Medeival Girl said "A HOLE!"
LMFAO!!!!!
....yeah slipknot sucks.

Re: Why Slipknot Sucks

facebook-1437641004 — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 04:16:21 -0000

Haha
Medeival Girl said "A HOLE!"
LMFAO!!!!!
....yeah slipknot sucks.

Re: Why Slipknot Sucks

slipknotlvr1313 — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:19:43 -0000

aaron; ur totally wrong about #11. their guitarists arent good at all, and it dosent take a guy that plays guitar to know that either. also, i speak for myself and others when i say that u arent funny at all by say DUMB ASS in almost every sentence. get a real sense of humor and stop trying to be funny

Re: Why Slipknot Sucks

Ricardo F.S. [Portugal] — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:43:35 -0000

and its not options its opinions =P sorry again im all fkd up with english =P.

Re: Why Slipknot Sucks

Ricardo F.S. [Portugal] — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:41:50 -0000

i sayd can sorry , i ment Cant!!!!

=P

.

Re: Why Slipknot Sucks

Ricardo F.S. [Portugal] — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:40:14 -0000

i couldn't agree more! medieval girl and of course, drew =)

slipknot is a great band and its not because they different they not great.

there's always a different band/singer/music etc, out there and the people can blame other one to like different kind of things so, no one's have the moral to judge whatever you want without knowing it or just because you dont like it...

so please if you dont like slipknot or other band just shutTFup and save your options to yourselves!

if you have something to say just dont piss-off other people.
and thats the real truth of music =) .

you know what that point means dont you? this one-> .
(ps.: like i say =P, then dont blame my comment if it asn't a good english)

so it's final.

\../. .\../

Re: Why Slipknot Sucks

Medieval Girl — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 00:42:28 -0000

Like I always say, "Fuck everyone else and just listen to what you want to listen to!" If you like Slipknot then screw the A Holes that don't! If Slipknot is not for you then don't listen! And that A Hole Max T can go fuck himself! It's usually the closet faggots that go around calling everyone else faggots!!!

Re: Why Slipknot Sucks

Medieval Girl — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 00:33:51 -0000

Fuking A!!!

Re: Why Slipknot Sucks

Medieval Girl — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 00:27:30 -0000

NICE!!! I LOVE IT!!! AND FUCK Max T!!!

Re: Why Slipknot Sucks

Medieval Girl — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 00:15:49 -0000

And, yet again, an AWESOME, AWESOME reply!!!

SLIPKNOT ROCKS!!!

Re: Why Slipknot Sucks

Medieval Girl — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 00:08:23 -0000

To Aaron:
AWESOME, AWESOME reply!!! I could not agree more!!!

Re: Why Slipknot Sucks

Medieval Girl — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 00:02:40 -0000

Fuck Ya! Who cares if some people think they suck. Music should ALWAYS be about what gets YOU fired up! Of course, if your more interested in being sheep, then by all means, go and join the rest of the fuckheads in this world who only listen to what others label as "cool music", or what's "In", or what's "good". It's listening to those bands that "Suck", that makes us individuals. I say, "Right On" to those who do what pleases them instead of giving a fuck what others say! By the way, I think Slipknot is awesome!

Re: Why Slipknot Sucks

ironsabbath — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:31:14 -0000

I agree. But unfortunately, I used to like them :P

I have no clue why, but when I was young, I liked pissed off, yelling music. Then when I grew up, I only listened to some of Slipknot's more melodic stuff (which there is not a lot of), so I completely lost interest in them.

The masks are really a stupid idea, and I don't like them. I absolutely HATE their guitar tone. It is too distorted, and downtuned. Don't get me wrong, I like some downtuning, because some Black Sabbath albums are all downtuned (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Master of Reality). But Slipknot takes it too far, and it is true that it's good to hide talent and mask mistakes. Their image is all about pain, agnst, and sorrow. Why listen to music to make you feel sad or pissed off? I also think Slipknot's fanbase is a turn off. Their fans call themselves 'maggots' and are really loyal. That sounds good, but it's too bad that they're idiots and are usually losers that are always depressed.

I like to listen to real metal (Iron Maiden, Megadeth, Judas Priest, Black Sabbath) because they have VERY talented guitarists and drummers, great singers, and good lyrics.

Slipknot has poor guitarists, and okay drummer(s). The singer sounds horrible when singing (screaming), rapping, or whimpering. The lyrics are about sad, stupid crap.

My advice to anyone who likes Slipknot: If you like them, go ahead. Just don't like them because people you know do. Be a leader, not a follower. Maybe you can start a trend of Classic Rock or Old School Heavy Metal.

Sorry for the long comment, but they're what I do best :P

Re: Why Slipknot Sucks

DELTAFORCEADC2 — Sun, 09 Aug 2009 05:19:19 -0000

Fuck tht max t fag. He just think they wear masks cuz they look cool no. They do cuz they want to. And they down tune their guitars cuz thts the kind of music they like to play, and if slipknot is supposubly not metal then wtf r they. O ya. METAL

Re: Why Slipknot Sucks

DELTAFORCEADC2 — Sun, 09 Aug 2009 05:10:19 -0000

O fuck u, who cares where they r from, ok they have 3 drummers cuz they fucking can, joey is an amazing drummer, and mabey they got their work ethic from Iowa cuz here in Iowa it isn't so fucking pretty all the god damn time. And they r fucking metal, they do have talented guitarists, and corey stays with slipknot cuz he love making great music and has a great friendship with the rest of the band, 9 members for 10 years, ya most 4 pep bands don't last tht long

Re: Why Slipknot Sucks

Anonymous — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:36:25 -0000

maggots (moar liek f*ggots amirite?) are pitiful

Re: Why Slipknot Sucks

Ben — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 13:23:00 -0000

Slipknot are one of the least talented mainstream (fwr: disgustingly average) thrash bands I've ever heard. They re-hash 20-year old riffs very, very badly, and occasionally whine some drivel about how hard their lives are between shouting like (to quote Chris Connelly - an original, and a vocalist I generally respect) "Fozzy Bear on crystal meth".
Listen to the mediocrity that drips from every lame hook, hackneyed "solo" and incomprehensible grunt, and think on the fact that they canceled their Reading festival slot (thanks, boys) last year due to... a broken ankle..? WTF? I've known grown-ups play another hour's gig with a broken ankle... and not even notice 'til after-wards. It's no big deal. You can stand up and hold a mic for god's sake... or play in a wheel chair, like Kurt did.
Worst of all - amazingly - it requires the combined "talents" of nine - NINE - of the fuckers to create their turgid shit. Aside from the dust-bin (trash-can) drumming. I thought that was OK, in a seen-it-before-but-it's-OK-to-see-it-again-this-ONCE kind of way. They could make a living busking like that if they could just keep time...
I'd rate Atomic Kitten higher. (Clue: I don't like Atomic Kitten at all). Slipknot are the Peter Andre of Metal.

http://bl0g.wa-junge.de/wp-content/_peter_andre...

(In the white suit, holding Jordan's hand, and for once trying to look like something vaguely human instead of a freshly-trepanned meat-puppet, he STILL scares me far more than all nine of them, in their masks, sniffing dead crows in jars and performing their "heaviest" track).

Just my opinion, of course.

Peace.

Re: Why Slipknot Sucks

bradyk — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:21:03 -0000

Yep, sure.

Like I said, thanks for playing.

--Kyle

Re: Why Slipknot Sucks

e1even — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:46:30 -0000

you said in the original post that "metal is not a dictionary definition"
you have just contradicted yourself

Re: Why Slipknot Sucks

bradyk — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:43:42 -0000

I'm sorry, I like Disturbed, but the moment you referenced them as revolutionary for breaking "the mold of typical metal", you lost any intelligent response I was going to give you.

--Kyle

Re: Why Slipknot Sucks

facebook-709620143 — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:47:58 -0000

Metal is, by definition, "heavy, syncopated, and talented guitars (influenced by other genres and styles like Classical or Middle Eastern) combined with aggressive tempos, intricate and intense drumming, and aggressive vocals that breach dark, but highly intelligent and usually deep, material." Which is completely slipknot. They definitely have songs that showcase the guitar talent, i.e. Psychosocial, and plenty of songs that are guitar driven, i.e. (sic), All Hope Is Gone, Opium of the People, The Nameless, and Before I Forget to name a few. Now, these songs aren't all the same pace as shit metal, i.e dying fetus, but that doesn't make them slow. They're all faster than Metallica. If you want to criticize a band for breaking the typical chug chug blast beat chug chug structure. That is you right. But because they, like Disturbed, broke the mold of typical metal, I think that makes them all the more talented to play music that fits them, not a genre. If anything, Slipknot breaks the "mainstream" mold that most popular bands have conformed to inside the genre itself.

As for down tuning, it is used SOLELY to make the impossible possible. You can't play certain riffs at all in standard tunings.
---5--
---5--
3-----
etc. Take the riff in System of a Down's Toxicity, that is not possible (for most people) in standard tuning. Also, down tuning make the guitars deeper, adding that disturbed, w/e you wanna call it layer to the music. If metal is solely about the guitars, why have the singers/drums? Corey and Joey are the focus of that band. Every thing else is extra in most songs. If you tell me that the two of them aren't one of, if not the best in their role you sir, do not understand the purpose of metal.

I'll agree that their guitars aren't even close to the best. Not even top 100, but there are tons of bands who have awful members and are still considered amazing. Metallica, James is an awful singer, especially post ...And Justice For All. As Blood Runs Black's singer isn't the best in the world, but their drums and guitars are pretty close. My whole point is that a band isn't one instrument. It's the culmination of all the instruments as one. If Slipknot isn't qualified in that way, and doesn't fit the "syncopated guitars, which just in case you don't know is notes or tones in a rhythmic pattern i.e. short-long-short, heavy driving drums, and dark lyrics" I guess there isn't a band in the world that is "true" metal.

Re: Why Slipknot Sucks

bradyk — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:28:00 -0000

I'm only going to say two things in response:

1) Metal, by definition, is guitar driven.
2) Downtuning guitars is a way to hide a lack of talent for many people. It's not always the case, for example the Deftones downtune heavily - not to be "brutal" or "way heavy, man", but for the atmospheric effect it allows them to have. In the case of bands like Slipknot, Korn, Limp Bizkit, etc. it's to hide the lack of guitar talent in the band, which is obvious from song structures and guitar parts.

--Kyle